Napoleon Series Archive 2009

Light and Heavy Cannister
In Response To: Re: Kartätschkugeln ()

Dear Hans
I wish my German was better. Large (heavy) balls travel further than the small balls. This was universal. Many countries had two forms of cannister. The different form of construction for howitzers may be due to the presence of the chamber.

Original Grapeshot was contained in a cloth bag. Later grapeshot was tied to a central spigot. Grapeshot was a term that was often used for the heavy cannister.

Adye (1801) p196, Adye (1806) p256 and Adye (1813) 344
Tier Shot for Field Service [Grapeshot] - Introdiced in 1780 but probably obsolete by 1800 and if used Naval Grapeshot was used.
12-pdr Medium ---- Heavy [15x 18oz] and Light [42x 6.5oz] = 18-18.5lbs total wt
12-pdr Light -------- Heavy [12x 14oz] and Light [34x 6.5oz] = 15lbs total wt
6-pdr Med ----------- Heavy [15x 8.5oz] and Light [42x 3.5oz] = 9lbs total wt
6-pdr Light ---------- Heavy [12x 8.5oz] and Light [34x 3.5oz] = 7.5lbs total wt

Case Shot [Adye as well as Caruana (1979) British Artillery Ammunition 1780] So there seems to be no change in construction from 1764.
12-pdr -------------- 84x 2oz = 12lbs approx
6-pdr -------------- 56x 1.5oz = 6lbs approx
3-pdr ---------------- 52x 1.25oz = 3lbs approx
Interesting that there was no mention of 9-pdr even in Adye (1813). It is likely thta it was 84x 1.5oz.

Spearman (1828) p128 were introduced by Millar in c1825. So the number and construction changed.
12-pdr --------------- Heavy [41x 6.5oz] and Light [126x 2oz]
9-pdr --------------- Heavy [41x 5oz] and Light [126x 1.5oz]
6-pdr --------------- Heavy [41x 3.25oz] and Light [85x 1.5oz]
3-pdr --------------- Heavy [41x 1.5oz]

Light cannister was abolished probably on 25 November 1830. [Hogg (1970) p161]. Light cannister was used into the 1860s.

From this confusion of data, cannister used by the British was the light form as there is no mention of tier shot or grapeshot in the lists. Therefore it was only up to 300 yards or so. Underlying the tactical use of case shot.

Stephen

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