Napoleon Series Archive 2009

Re: Canister
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Kevin

thank you for condesending and patronising tone. Please read what I wrote rather than assuming you know what I wrote.

I asked a fairly simple question. How did the gunners of the period or modern authors come to their conclusions on how a cannister worked in terms of rupture in the gun tube given they cannot see what happened to the cannister in the gun tube. A fairly basic question.

I am fully aware of the effect of the round of cannister against targets, but I am not fully aware of how this effect was brought about.

What we do know is this.

A) the gun is loaded with a propellant charge and the cannister
B) ????????????
C) the cannister balls leave the cannister and impact on the target

How does the solid cannister and the balls therein contained release the balls? how do we know what happened as fact rather than guess work? I ascertain that you nor period comentators can proove what happens to the cannister in the gun tube as it can not be observed. I do not know what happens. I can speculate but I cannot offer hard fact.

All I am asking for is a clearer understanding of the mechanical process whereby the balls leave the cannister based in fact rather than hot air, hyperbole, and speculation. we can trade period sources saying what may have happened in the tube and the effect on a target of cannister, but it does not resolve the impass of knowing how the cannister operates. You are firm in your conviction that you know for definate what occurs in the gun tube to the cannister round, whereas I take a more dogamtic line and say we can guess as what happens.

A number of period sources corroborate each other on their discussion of what happens to the cannister round in the gun tube. How do these writers know what happens in the gun tube as imperical fact? How was the action of the propellant charge on the cannister round observed?

To answer another question you used to deried my level of understanding. Basic physics says that an object like a cannister will tumble in flight. Bullets or shells are designed so not to tumble in flight, A cannister in essence is not designed to fly stabily. Throw a tin of canned food, and observe what happens to the tin in flight, it will tumble. The same would happen to a cannister round if it left the tube intact or partially intact.

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