Napoleon Series Archive 2009

Forming square from column

Howie,

I am in Spain at present, and although I do have electronic copies of both British and French regaulations with me am a bit busy today, so do not have time to research this as well as I would otherwise wish to do.

From memory, the French 1791 Regulations and British 1792 Regulations had virtually identical methods of forming square from column and in both cases the regulations were for companies in three ranks doubling up to form a square in six ranks.

It is easier to consider this as rows, of either companies or double companies (the latter being French divisions or British grand divisions). The drill requires a minimm of 5 rows, two for the front face of the square, two for the rear face of the square and one to split in four quarters, two doubled up on each of the sides of the square. It does not matter how many "centre" rows there are, as long as there is at least one, nor does there have to be an even number of centre rows.

The British could theoretically perform this drill from their column of grand division, provided all ten companies were in the column. If the light company was detached, as it always was during Wellington's era, then British battalions needed to re-form into columns of company in order to use this drill. The British adopted 2 ranks as their norm, but continued to use this method to double these up into 4 rank squares.

The French were never able to use this method of doubling up into six rank faces of the square from columns of division since, even pre-1808, they did not have five complete rows of sub-units per battalion when in column of division. If they wanted to have six ranks in their squares they needed to do so from columns of companies, or from a composite column of two battlions. The French liked using columns of division, therefore used a modified form of the drill by which they no longer doubled up, so formed 3 rank squares. This enabled them to form squares from columns of division pre-1808 and continued to allow them to do so post-1808, provided all six companies were in the column. If the voltigeurs were detached they needed to re-form into a column of companies in order to use this drill (which is actually why Napoleon's 1808 Decree requires them to operate by company, not division, when either or both of the elite companies was detached.

Hope this makes sense.

Rod

Messages In This Thread

Howitzers
Re: Howitzers
Re: Howitzers - for Kevin to answer
Re: Howitzers
Ere wie ere toekomt
Re: Howitzers
Re: Howitzers
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister *LINK*
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Case Shot
Re: Case Shot
Re: Case Shot
Re: Case Shot
Re: Case Shot
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister *LINK*
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Prussian Ordnance and Artillery
Re: Prussian Ordnance and Artillery
Prussian Ordnance not of the 7YW
Re: Prussian Ordnance not of the 7YW
Re: Prussian Ordnance not of the 7YW
Re: Prussian Ordnance not of the 7YW
Line or Guard Artillery
Re: Line or Guard Artillery
French artillery tactical doctrine
Re: French artillery tactical doctrine
Re: French artillery tactical doctrine
French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Doctrine vs Common Practice
Re: Doctrine vs Common Practice
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Materials by Hermann von Müller.
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica *LINK*
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Arrows in the Quiver
Friedland, 1807 by Maj. A. F. Becke, RA.
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
Re: French Artillery Commanders and Tactica
absence of evidence is not evidence of absence
Re: French artillery tactical doctrine
Re: French artillery tactical doctrine
The British gunner by J. Morton Spearman.
Re: The British gunner by J. Morton Spearm
Re: The British gunner by J. Morton Spearm
Re: The British gunner by J. Morton Spearm
Re: The British gunner by J. Morton Spearm
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Re: Howitzers and Canister
The Null Hypothesis
Re: The Null Hypothesis
Re: Howitzers and Canister
Cannister and Hail Shot
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Quote from De Scheel (1800)
Re: Quote from De Scheel (1800)
Re: Quote from De Scheel (1800)
Re: Quote from De Scheel (1800)
Re: Quote from De Scheel (1800)
Different constructions of cannister
Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
Sources
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Which particular design???
M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Trick Phrase. :\
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
System AnXI
Re: System AnXI
Re: System AnXI
Re: System AnXI
French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
M1775 Garrison Guns
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Asked and Answered...
Re: Asked and Answered...
Re: Asked and Answered...
Superiority?????
Re: Superiority?????
Re: Superiority?????
Techology changes over 50 years
Re: Techology changes over 50 years
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
So 25 is better than 20 interesting *NM*
Conundrums...
Re: Conundrums...
Re: Conundrums...
Quoting from Adye 1801
Re: Quoting from Adye 1801
Re: Quoting from Adye 1801
Re: Conundrums...
Re: Conundrums...
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: French Artillery of 1824
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Re: M1765 Cannister from De Scheel
Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Problems of translation
Re: Problems of translation
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Thank you for this summary.
Re: Thank you for this summary.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
White metal = tinned iron
Re: White metal = tinned iron
Re: White metal = tinned iron
Re: White metal = tinned iron
Re: White metal = tinned iron
Dollezcek (1872)
Things melt especially when heated. *LINK*
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Things melt especially when heated.
Re: Which particular design???
French Experimental Design
Re: French Experimental Design
Re: French Experimental Design
Re: Which particular design???
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Re: Canister
Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Forming square from column
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Re: Guard infantry operated in 8 pelotons
Ducking a Canister Can
Re: Ducking a Canister Can
Re: Ducking a Canister Can
Re: Ducking a Canister Can
Re: Ducking a Canister Can
Re: Quote from De Scheel (1800)
Re: Quote from De Scheel (1800)
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot *LINK*
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Spherical Case [Shrapnell]
Re: Spherical Case [Shrapnell]
Re: Spherical Case [Shrapnell]
Re: Spherical Case [Shrapnell]
Kartätschkugeln *LINK*
Re: Kartätschkugeln
Re: Kartätschkugeln
Light and Heavy Cannister
Re: Light and Heavy Cannister
Re: Light and Heavy Cannister
Re: Light and Heavy Cannister *LINK*
Re: Spherical Case [Shrapnell]
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Re: Cannister and Hail Shot
Canister = basket
Re: Canister = basket
On the Use of Field Artillery on Service.
Re: Howitzers
Re: Howitzers
Re: Howitzers
Re: Howitzers
Re: Howitzers
Spherical Case [Shrapnell]
Re: Howitzers