I agree. That is why I put it in quotations. I meant it more in the sense of making Spain work for France. If they had went into Spain with the intention of doing what they did Spain would have never created the armies France needed or the money they wanted. I think of it like a parasite. A good parasite never kills it's host cause it will die as well. N went in there not wanting to kill it's host, but the host resisted and as a result they both lost. I apologize if my prior post was misleading in that regard.