Napoleon Series Archive 2015

Re: Napoleon and the Kings
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Jean,
You've missed my point I think: I am not saying that any of these things are particularly bad, just that they are the normal behaviour of monarchs and monarchies (and all regimes tend to patronage and nepotism unless rigid controls are in place) so that Napoleon does not hold the moral high ground on liberty, equality (he took fraternity to extremes) or the rights of man.

What I was attempting to demonstrate was that he showed a consistent movement away from republicanism towards absolute monarchy, one can only speculate how far he would have gone if he had stayed in power longer. If he had stayed on long enough to hand over to his son the boy would have come to power purely by right of birth and would have been surrounded by nobles who had inherited their titles from their fathers.

With regard to conquered territories, no-one would expect the people to have any right to choose the new government (as Wellington made clear to the French commissioners in 1815) but the 'sister republics' were surely entitled to a plebiscite if France was - please correct me if they did get the option - and the people of the territories annexed in 1810 surely should have had some say in the matter.

regards,

Susan

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